Monday, January 12, 2009


Why is hyper-fundamentalism unprofitable?

First some definitions. These came from, I think they will work.

overexcited; overstimulated; keyed up.
seriously or obsessively concerned; fanatical; rabid

(sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
the beliefs held by those in this movement.
strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservativ

I think using definition #2 on hyper & #3 on fundamentalism is fairly close to what hyper-fundamentalism should mean.

I think most people are fundamental in one way or another. I have basic fundamental beliefs & being fundamental in itself is not bad, I think it is probably good. In order have or know truth don't you have to be just a tad bit fundamental?

When we become hyper in our fundamentalism then most of the time we lose a little bit of respect because who ever we are talking to feels degraded by our conversation with them. If that happens how are you ever going to convince someone of what you believe is the truth about an issue?

1 Cor. 13:2
If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

I get from this that I can know all the answers to Lordship, Free Grace, theology but not have love then what I am saying is nothing to whoever is listening. I may get by with one maybe two or three conversations but sooner or later the person who is listening is going to realize there is no real concern by me for them as a person. IOW what I am saying is more important than who I am saying it to. Thats messed up!

How do I know if I have love? Well the Holy Spirit speaking through Paul to the Corinthians seems pretty clear on what love is.

1 Cor. 13:4-7
4Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,
5does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
6does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

So if your not seeking your own and are not provoked or you don't take into account a wrong suffered and are kind and patient then you have love.

This brings me to a basic question:

If you are in a discussion about theology and are not seeking your own or can't be provoked or your not taking into account a wrong suffered then where in the name of love can you find reason to practice separation? You may call it biblical but is it really biblical after knowing what love is?
Come on, separating over theological disagreements? It's not like separating from someone who is sleeping with their stepmother and knows better is it? Of course not!

If your a hyper-fundamentalist, your hyperness is a clue you don't have the love God is talking about in the passage above.

How do we get that love? We love because He first loved us.(1 John 4:19) Or is 1 John 4:18 speaking to you? If it is lay down the conditions you have set up for yourself in order for God to love you. Maybe it will be the first time you experience God's love. Maybe you have experienced God's love before but you have been the victim of hyper-legalistic-fundamentalism yourself. If its the latter I know what you are going thru and brother there is hope. Let the conditions go and the unconditional will take over.

Friday, January 02, 2009


Lou Martuneac & Hyper-fundamentalism!

Lou Martuneac has fallen victim to Hyper-fundamentalism. I feel sorry for him and all those who are being poisoned by this ISM.

Lou, Hyper-fundamentalism is dangerous! It is rooted in legalism and those who depend on their "perfect" lifestyle and "perfect" reading of scripture to be acceptable to God.

The biggest problem with this legalistic approach to relating to God is other relationships are void of love. Relationships are superficial to the hyper-legalistic-fundamentalist and most are void of emotional contact. It is so deceptive that the person thinks that admonishing others on fundamental grounds is actually loving them. Jesus got on the Pharisees case about not caring for their parents with their money. Why did they not do such a basic act of human love? Because they actually thought God wanted their money and would be upset if their parents got it before Him. How messed up is that?

But the person caught up in this poisonous ISM is trapped. They may sense that something is wrong but if you can only relate to God in this way then change is as fearful as going to the lake of fire. Because if you think God is this stern and without mercy then your trapped with no way out, you must keep tearing down others on the alter of fundamentalism that has been erected in your fleshly mind.

Final words:

Run, run as fast as you can away from a hyper-legalist-fundamentalist! It is poison and in the case of those who are not born again this can make you twice as much a son of hell.

I was going to post a sarcastic caricature of Lou's comments to me on another blog. But somehow when I went to do it I was lead into something I had never thought of before.

God is love and in Him there is no darkness.

God IS love, He not only loves He IS love.

Grace & Peace

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